Sunday, March 08, 2009

Quote Of The Day

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

Mohandas Gandhi

Interesting. Going by some of the snarky comments about Ayn Rand and Objectivism that I am encountering all over the Internet (no need to link, just Google), I'd say we're firmly in Phase 2.

Which really is a nice change of pace from Phase 1, after all. Gearing up for Phase 3!


Rachel said...

Could you explain the phases, pretty please?

Elisheva Hannah Levin said...

It may even be between phase 2 and 3. There are also a lot of people on the web seriously talking about "going Galt" and many are just fed up citizens, not Objectivists at all philosophically. Kind of like me, I guess. I think we are getting close to a fight.

Justine said...

hey jenn,
I don't agree w/ you on much! I also never leave comments. But this time i can't help myself!

Maybe you should just leave your kids with a 13yo sitter anytime you do anything important. Maybe you should have all stayed home and watched sponge bob together as a family.

I suppose I get the safety issue presented, but have these people never taken their children to a crowded public place? baseball game? shopping mall? public school perhaps?

What do your criticizers think you should teach your children, if not what you believe?
Should we teach them the opposite of what we believe?
Should we teach them what our neighbor believes instead?
Maybe we should try to teach them as little as least that would be neutral.
What would our beliefs even mean to us if we didn't pass them along?
*This is important to mommy and daddy, but you are much to young and unimportant to be a part of it
*No, you can't hold this sign, because you don't fully understand its implications nor the arguments others might present against it.

Obviously, one day they will reach the age of reason. More explaining, acceptance, unconditional love, blah, blah blah.

But now they are very young children. They are biologically programmed to imitate us.

I could go on, but this seems to get my point across.

Blog on!

Anthony said...

Is a practitioner of asceticism and pacifism really the right person to be quoting to inspire Objectivists?

I don't find anything deep and meaningful in Gandhi's statement. Maybe you can explain it to me, though.

Rational Jenn said...

I am not trying to suggest that I particularly admire Gandhi and perhaps I should have made that more clear in the post. For all I know, that quotation is taken entirely out of context.

But it was interesting to me because the sentiment could apply to what is happening today with this sudden interest and to a certain degree, acceptance?, of Objectivism by non-Objectivists and some in the media. Harry Binswanger has mentioned several times on HBL that even a few years ago, no LTE with a mention of Ayn Rand would have been printed in the WSJ. Now we see this frequently. Granted, the government has been screwing up spectacularly over the last few years, but still.

I think we were ignored before, certainly. Now we are being made fun of (just check some of the ridiculous ad hominem arguments on blogs and elsewhere) and a fight for ideas is surely before us, or just beginning.

Just drawing a parallel, that's all.

Rachel said...

Nothing wrong with quoting a philosophical adversary. Just needs a little explanation, that's all.

Very interesting to think about!

Anthony said...

I assume the quote is a celebration of pacifism: "they fight you, and then you win". Maybe I'm misreading it, though.